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Sean Halley talks about this in more than one video that Helix sounds like you're in the control room and the amp/cab is in the studio. Not gonna happen, nor does Line 6 claim it would. By your words and expectations you are looking for a 'amp/cab in the room' sound. One should only expect what Line 6 designed for the Helix. It's a technical phrase, I'll expand on it. Had I seen this thread earlier, we could have avoided all this.

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I'd go buy something else if I were you.maybe a Fractal or Kemper, both excellent units.don't really understand what your after but I'm having zero problems getting some pretty forward sitting tones out the Helix, but maybe you're a pro player with higher end needs than me.good luck.

As long as whatever I buy is still in brand new condition.

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They give me a nice long free testing period.And in turn I overlook the pre-opened thing if it happens. So it's a compromise I'm willing to make with them. And they might not have a generous 45 day testing period. Even if it was used for a very short period of time. If they had to reduce the price of every item that was returned. As long as it is still in 'brand new' condition. So my policy is if I buy something there that is pre-opened. They did give me 45 days to try it at no risk.

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So I am expecting them to sell it as brand new and at full price to someone else. That turned out to be a prophetic move on my part. I left the sticker covers in place just in case I wanted to return it for some reason. And the plastic covers for the UI display were still in tact. That did not alarm me too much because I just figured the guys at the store probably tried it out. The seals (stickers) on the box and the plastic bag that the unit is packaged in. I can share with you that when I bought mine new from GC. Since you guys are talking about the reselling topic. I just want to stop saying negative things at this point. It's up to the company now to use my feeback, or toss it in the garbage bin. I've said everything that I want to say about why I returned it. Talking about the same things I didn't like over and over with forum members seems more like complaining, than constructive feeback. And that would make no sense.ДЄt this point I'm just repeating myself over and over. I would need to use external reverbs and other equipment to overdrive the pedal's sound into something I liked. Or whatever adjective you choose to call it. And it's next to impossible to bring back in front again with EG or any other settings. The guitar source gets pushed back more than I like. The guitar does not get pushed into the background so drastically. With my GNX4 and my VTS's this behavior does not happen anywhere near as much.

You have the choice of everything in between, how it should be.

Cranking up the pre delay puts the guitar right in your face. Of course the guitar is going to sound distant if the reverberations arrive very soon after the dry guitar, puts them both at a similar distance. Op didn't mention tweaking the pre delay on the reverb.